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Peter Moore's avatar

Barry, the last time I had a flu shot was in the 1990's and it was very much due to HR pressure. That winter, I had the most severe case of flu of my life. My wife also came down with it. She had not been vaccinated and was far less ill than I was. As a result, I did my own research and the evidence justifying the vaccine was so flaky that I vowed never again. Those were days when you could have an open and honest conversation with your GP and I did so. He concurred with the conclusions that I had reached. Sadly, I think there are far too few GPs who would even dare enter into such a conversation nowadays, such is the fear mentality generated from management in the UK NHS and, I think, most national health services. That is far from healthy!

I think I may have told you before that last Christmas, somebody brought covid to our nochebuena celebrations at my neighbours. Janet and I were the only non vaccinated attendees. We were under the weather for a couple of days but took our normal 'self medication' procedures. Of the other attendees, several were ill for at least two weeks and one required hospital treatment. The thing that amazed me is that I spoke to my neighbour about the matter. He has had all the covid vaccinations and boosters. I asked him what he would do when offered a booster this autumn. He proffered his arm and said 'Yes please'. I just don't understand the lack of questioning, especially after nearly four years of evidence, which. logically, demands a lot more debate than the media and politicians are prepared to enter into.

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Amanda Barber's avatar

Yup. My family never got the flu shot because we watched our elderly grandmother go get her shot religiously and then proceed to get the flu, very badly, anyway. But we didn’t know the research. Then, my younger brother became a nurse. After being hired on at a hospital, he got curious about the flu vaccine and started doing his own research. (Was never taught about this in nursing school.) His conclusions: the flu shot does diddly squat and he started changing the proscribed wording when offering the shot to patients. He’d spout the company line like he was supposed to and then tack on something like, “You’re well within your rights to refuse this, if you want.” A lot of people did. He refused to get one himself and had to spend the entire flu season in a mask on the floor (way before Covid ever happened) while his vaccinated coworkers got flu anyway and coughed, sniffled, and sneezed unhindered. Science.

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